I would love to try the embedded Circle on the router with my premium Circle subscription, but that doesn't appear to transfer. They are calling it the “Circle Home Plus”. You will not be billed for Circle Go services in December. Before I compare Qustodio and Circle, I would like to point out that the former is application-based, whereas the latter is gadget-based, to some extent. plan to use it for ~7 years. The means only the home network features can be obtained through NETGEAR + CIRCLE WITH DISNEY. Both Circle 1st generation and our latest product, Circle Parental Controls are set up and managed using an app. Setting up Qustodio was much simpler than other similar programs. However, I decided to block my daughter from accessing Facebook. This feature adds an SMS button on the smartphone of your child. https://kb.netgear.com/000044718/What-NETGEAR-routers-support-Circle-with-Disney. Setting Up the Circle Home Plus. I just wish that they had handled the migration/handoff better. Circle Home Plus is the latest generation device from Circle. any comment on this? There are chances that your kids are smart enough to realize that they are being blocked from accessing certain sites while trying to access them through their home's WiFi connection and might try to access those websites through a mobile network. Premium for Circle on NETGEAR. NetNanny's parental controls are not as good as Circles nor does NetNanny provide history or usage like Circle. After spending hours on the phone with support (they really are great people who want to help) and factory resetting my son's iPhone XR twice (another nightmare), I gave up again. Just like you said, I was concerned about lack of support for the new disney circle features which is the main reason for the upgrade, 2. I didn't have too many issues with it so might as well use it. Apparently I wasted my money on the router in January, because what I really needed was just the Circle Home Plus cube. 2: If not, maybe it'll make it clearer for others in the future. 1) Configure the ATT router to be a passthrough device and turn off any of its onboard wifi, 2) Connect the Nighthawk to the ATT router, bring up your wifi network, then do a speed test from a kid's wireless device (I personally like fast.com for the speed test). so $239 with lifetime subscription. I'm not sure whether to: (a) Leave the Nighthawk router hooked up to the WiFi device provided by ATT and then add the Cube to it while disabling the Disney Circle parental controls that came with the Nighthawk router (1st gen) or. Are you sure that your child has not installed applications on his or her smartphone, that may be harmful to him or her? Talking to your kid, building their digital resilience, as well as encouraging responsible behavior are extremely important so that they know what to do in case bad things occur. When your child presses it, his smartphone sends location-based alerts to you in case of any trouble. From devices on your home network, both wireless and wired, to connected devices, Circle has you covered. Get comprehensive details of the web activity of your kids through this tab. Thankfully, there are a number of excellent parental control apps, routers, and devices that allow parents to do just this, from the Gryphon Smart Mesh Router to the Disney Circle Home Plus to the Amazon eero Pro mesh network. You can also gain access to your child's Facebook profile even if you do not know his password. Short answer no. I subscribed to NetNanny for the cell phones and laptops but now when the kids devices are home, both Circle and NetNanny are controlling the devices and makes it difficult to determine which service is causing a connection problem. Visit Qustodio                                                                Visit Circle. Are they just less user friendly when you have to use OpenDNS for configuring and maybe not as easy to go by individual family member profiles? I have seen many similar apps, but this one has the friendliest dashboard. I bought a Nighthawk router in January to monitor WiFi/internet. And you can begin managing online screen time from anywhere. Out of home network monitoring now requires Circle Parental Controls app, compatible only with 2nd gen hardware (aka, the Circle Home Plus device), and thus none of the NETGEAR routers. (e.g., TP-Link Deco M9 Plus, $199 at costco for 3 units). Like you, I have some history with Circle devices: First there was the original Circle which sort of worked, despite an often glitchy Android app and CircleGo VPN issues. As seen in the picture above, this device also boasts of a pause feature that permits me to temporarily disconnect all devices connected to the WiFi from the internet. This feature allows you to monitor your children's list of friends along with their pictures, as well as view their status updates. Of course, for the extra $$$, I should hope so! Sounds like you've been caught in the same crossfire as myself. Reading some of the info out there, though, maybe Disney Circle (1st gen) is what is holding it up? • Instant/direct messages. I must admit that this device helped me somewhat by allowing me to first configure options for adults, teens, kids, and those who are pre-K. Once done, I could include smartphones on any of these four categories. If you just plugged in the Nighthawk, are you seeing 2 separate wifi networks? I am a long time eero user, right after kick starter and I have also been a Disney circle user as well. In this Qustodio vs Circle review, I shall be focusing on the positive points of both of them to help you find out which one of them is best suited for your kids. You first need to sign up for an account on the website of the vendor, complete the payment process, and download the client. As soon as you pair this device with your router, it detects all devices connected to it. Still works fine at home. Thanks for this discussion. 1st gen will be phased out in lieu of the new 2nd gen Circle platform which, by all I've seen, looks like a good move. Cloud based, better structure, etc. I guess a couple years ago that was the benefit of Circle first Generation was that you could have mobile device management and home router management all in one app? Circle’s award-winning parental controls device and app combo is the most comprehensive solution for families looking to manage screen time and content on all devices, including mobile device management for iOS and Android.. With Circle, you can manage all your Internet and Wi-Fi connected devices, at home and away, from one app. Is he or she playing any adult-oriented games or games that could prove to be a threat to his or her life such as “Momo” (a new internet game that challenges users to perform various horrific tasks, with the last one being to commit suicide without them being aware of it)? What is the downside of just going with Netgear's parental controls? I saw no change in the CircleGo performance - in fact that appeared to be worse. I'll definitely be watching this discussion and offering any help I run across. You can easily monitor the messages sent and received by your child, read them, and block them by setting up a list of blocked contacts and adding the offending text sender to the list. Then the new Circle platform was released. It is available for $99 and allows you to control devices at your home without any subscription. For example, my son is quite mature, therefore, I only blocked him from HBO, as he loves spending too much time watching movies. Thanks for the previous posts. No need to do anything at all, since I didn't change my network name. If the speed difference is a problem, you may want to return the Circle device. if so, the free security software from TP-Link is attractive as Negear Armor is not free. Each Circle Home Plus device also includes a built-in backup battery to ensure it keeps running even when unplugged. Get started with a one month free trial of Circle Premium * *$4.99/month or only $49.99/year for Circle Premium By the way, this company provides you with a three-day free prime membership even if you opt for the free “basic” version. Just bought an RBR50 Orbi router and have an existing 1st generation circle device. The Circle Home Plus won't work with the Circle with Disney. Works with the Circle with Disney device and supported NETGEAR routers. You can prevent such problems from taking place by subscribing to Circle Go for just $4.99 per month. Circle with Disney is a new take on parental controls. It also contains a battery backup, in case any of your kids is smart enough to realize that this device is tracking their online activities and decides to disable it by unplugging it. (b) Ditch the Nighthawk and add the Cube directly to the ATT router. • Disabling net temporarily, • Text messages Now, as a geek of 30+ years (with a computer science masters degree), I can read the writing on the wall. FYI, I have on order a Gryphon router and I am hoping I will have a better experience with that router which is also supposed to have great parental controls. Circle offers a set of features as standard for these devices, with additional features available through a $4.99 monthly subscription called Circle Premium. I also loved the knowledgeable customer service, without whose help I might not have been able to configure the device. Circle 1st Gen vs Circle on Netgear vs Circle Home Plus, Model: RBW30|Orbi AC2200 Tri-band WiFi Add-on Satellite, Re: Circle 1st Gen vs Circle on Netgear vs Circle Home Plus. Now you have the option to see the phone numbers your child is calling and block numbers that you feel are inappropriate for him or her. For users, this means Disney ads a-plenty and product-pushing galore. in addition, is Circle Home Plus compatiable with TP-Link Deco M9 mesh system? Circle Circle is a relative newcomer to the router game, but that doesn't matter much as their Circle Home Plus isn't designed to replace your main router, so they don't need to worry about offering the kind of range and performance that the big players bring to the table. Unlike most of my other comparative reviews, I shall review them separately, and provide my verdict at the end. I found the free version of Disney Circle helped, but did not have everything I want, i.e., time limits, bedtime, etc. It also contains a battery backup, in case any of your kids is smart enough to realize that this device is tracking their online activities and … Let's just say that my two objectives were to  (1) clearly state the issue and the question and (2) prevent any "if you had done a search for it, you would have found..." trolling. Mobile device performance was so bad on VPN as to render devices useless. A while ago, Circle discontinued support for new Circle Go accounts (which allow for devices to be monitored when outside the home network). I am testing Orbi AC2200 (1 router + 1 satelite). This ensures that the application does not show up on my user's profile. Did you make any changes to the ATT router at all or just plug in the Nighthawk? Apparently I wasted my money on the router in January, because what I really needed was just the Circle Home Plus cube. Download Circle Smart Parental Controls and not Circle with Disney. I'll leave it to you to determine whether Circle is better than Qustodio or not after I complete my Qustodio compared to Circle review. Circle Basic/Premium subscriptions are only applicable for 1st gen / NETGEAR devices (or at least mine). It automatically detects devices that do not require monitoring but are connected to your home's WiFi, such as your printer, and excludes them from monitoring. It allows you to monitor and control every device connected to the WiFi connection of your home. Circle Home Plus is an entirely new product, so you won't be able to use your old Circle Home hardware with the new Circle Parental Controls app or features. I have checked many parental control programs and applications and have chosen to review both Qustodio and Circle, which, in my opinion, are the leading parental control software. Getting started with Qustodio can be summarized in 3 simple steps as illustrated in the diagram below: I was surprised by the option of preventing anybody from seeing that Qustodio has been installed on my laptop by clicking a box during the setup process. As kids get older, families can move up to Circle Home Plus which allows screentime limits to be controlled even when kids are out of the home network and can also enable location tracking. It is available for $99 and allows you to control devices at your home without any subscription. I am surprised your Nighthawk router did not improve wifi over the ATT router. To configure the Circle Home Plus, you first need to download the Circle App on either an Android (5.0 and later) or iOS (10.0 and later) device. I hope this information gets to Netgear and they will fix the issues so the product can be made better for those using it. I dont know what's the difference between option 1 and 2 in terms of: a) parental control performance, and b) impact on router speed. It offers access to many features such as: You can set different internet access time limits on different devices. (My Orbi is not listed here: Can my Circle Orbi co-exist with the Circle Home Plus App only monitoring for just those devices I want monitored off network, leaving my Orbi to monitor on network devices. ABOUT CIRCLE: Circle products help families better manage time spent online. Apart from this, they also provide you with the opportunity to prevent your kids from accessing online content, unsuitable for them. The battery provides backup for just one hour, but that is more than enough, as I will receive an alert the moment someone unplugs the device from the mains, allowing me to plug it in again. Circle Home Plus can monitor devices at the router level on your home network or through an app on your child's mobile device. Not compatible with the 2nd generation Circle Home Plus device. I have the Orbi50 and can't use the current Circle Home app or subscription, and can only sign up for a service that I have no faith will even be maintained for the year's term duration!! Thanks for starting this thread. But since Circle Go went away, coupled with the fact that Circle does not cover laptops away from home, I've had to come up with some other solution (which I'm still not happy with) to cover their devices when away from home. You can use this setting to block games and applications as well as decide which applications and games your kids can use and when. Track the iOS or Android device of your kid on a detailed map. One feature that’s unique to Disney Circle is that you can "reward” a child with more time. Once you set up the Circle Home Plus device on your Wi-Fi router, the app will detect all your family’s Wi-Fi and mobile devices. I was hoping to either use my circle device with the new router or use the built-in circle on the router. The device is $129 and that includes one year of premium membership. I was hoping to have better WiFi in the bargain, but that hasn't really been the case. Does a newer Orbi work as a 2nd gen device? So, we'll see. To obtain full capability, you now have to purchase the CIRCLE HOME PLUS device which also includes 1-year subscription coverage for Premium Features and up to 10 mobile apps. Unfortunately, this device did not allow me to check the Facebook activities of my kids. Enticed with a 50% discount due to my prior issues, I upgraded to the Circle Home Plus device that came with a premium parental controls subscription. I felt let down by the time consumed during the setup process, as I had to individually set up the configurations. Note: the latest Circle Parental Control software is not embedded on any NETGEAR routers currently: learn about Circle and Circle Home Plus at meetcircle.com Basic vs. I've tried to boil down my last 24 hours as succinctly as possible but let me know if I can clarify anything. Add the device from step 2 to the kid's profile, then repeat speed test. • Scheduled time use I only wish it worked on cell phones too! Thus far, I haven't noticed any appreciable speed issues, nor have the kids complained. I found the free version of Disney Circle helped, but did not have everything I want, i.e., time limits, bedtime, etc. We've had a Disney Circle hardware device for years, shortly after they first came out, with Circle Go enabled on some of the kids' devices. Now let us move on to my test of Circle to determine which is best. Just a quick update. All of the Circles' features, for every member of the family. Simply request them to refund your money if you are not satisfied with their product. • Filtering content by age 1) Netgear Orbi + built-in circle premium ($50/year), 2) Negear Orbi + 2nd Gen Circle Home Plus ($239 lifetime), 3) Other Router + Circle Home Plus ($239 lifetime). These applications and tools permit parents to set controls on the internet use of their children. They will be unable to log in to Facebook unless they accept this request. Get help with Disney+ account issues and questions: supported devices, login issues, update payment method, unable to watch, billing, Disney bundle. Pros: Looks: The modern, streamlined, compact design of the Circle device is definitely a plus.At just 3.25″ square, it’s nearly invisible on a bookshelf or near your desktop computer setup. I guess I'm in the same boat as everyone here. Formerly known as Disney Circle, this device blankets your home network with protection—and it now protects every device that uses your home Wi-Fi, plus mobile devices when you download the Circle app. Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router. Social networks are both a boon and a bane, depending on how one uses it. Compared to Circle with Disney, it additionally features the ability to manage mobile devices everywhere, a faster network connection, and a new location feature to keep track of your kids through their mobile devices. Circle on NETGEAR cannot support monitoring of mobile devices when out of home network as it is considered a Circle 1st gen device, requiring Circle Go to do it which has been discontinued for new accounts. However, unauthorized devices can also use ARP spoofing to compromise your home network. right now the 2nd gen circle home plus is on sale with 20% off. I was about to upgrade to premium when I realized that there is a whole new Circle out there (2nd gen). Circle is also accessible through other devices, such as certain Netgear routers and T-Mobile phones with the FamilyMode app. 3) Connect Circle to the Nighthawk and setup a kid's profile. Your child might have befriended someone who is sending him or her pictures that are inappropriate for his or her sensitive and curious mind. However, it did permit me to put a blanket ban on sites that the targeted device should not visit. I kept getting disconnects from my wifi, even though it was installed in the same location as my netgear R6400 which has been rock solid, 3. I also want to check the activities taking place on these devices inclusive of messages being shared, SMS being sent and received with the ability to read them, as well as block specific numbers from sending or receiving messages to my kids. Why should I be bombarded with ads for a paid device or application? If so this might be why you didn't see performance go up. I was amazed at this Qustodio feature that allows users to access a month's worth of usage history of the targeted device. I'll be curious to hear if you have any luck with your RBR50! Circle then inspects your internet traffic and either grants or denies access to certain devices. There are no plans as such with Disney Circle Home. Circle 1st Gen vs Circle on Netgear vs Circle Home Plus. It also works on laptops, desktops, smartphones, and tablets. I'm also remembering all the good times I've had trying to get this to work and reluctant to try again, especially considering the RBR50 is using the Circle 1st Gen app for premium features. You might want to consider contacting ATT and asking them to walk you through setting up "IP Passthrough" - you could try to read this link as well but it does get technical. Circle - Home Plus - Parental Controls - Internet & Mobile Devices - Wifi, Android & iOS - Limit Screen Time - 3-mo Subscription Model: CIR5001 SKU: 6397663 User rating, 3.8 out of 5 stars with 65 reviews. Circle with Disney is a small white cube that connects to your home Wi-Fi router wirelessly or by using an Ethernet cable. Will I get better WiFi by using ATT's router --> Nighthawk --> Cube or getting the Nighthawk out of the way and using ATT router --> Cube? And than having to have another third party app to manage content on devices? I am not a techie all. Just add his mobile number on the Facebook section of the application. https://kb.netgear.com/000052289/What-are-the-available-service-plans-when-using-Circle-with-Disney-... Is this only true of my RBR40? (Note: I understand that the service would just be Basic, not the Premium). I tested Qustodio for many hours before writing this Qustodio vs Circle comparison, and have to admit that I was extremely impressed. If you don't see much difference between 2 and 3 then finish setting up Circle profiles. Overall Thoughts about Circle with Disney: The pros and cons. Keeping these facts in mind, one has to be extremely careful when selecting such an application. After this, they will view a popup message requesting them to add the Qustodio app whenever they try to log into Facebook using their smartphone. Circle's general hardware and software solution is simple to set up and is a good solution for parents who want to control all their children's internet activities at home. Performance wasn't bad either, but we weren't pushing it hard and only the kids devices were being managed. Sadly, we just broke down and got the new Circle device. Really, it has been incredibly simple and easy to use. Overall, I believe that Circle Home Plus has some great improvements over the original Circle with Disney. weaves I agree with your statement. Sadly, we just broke down and got the Circle Home Plus as I knew we were at an impass. You can also seek their help while facing problems in setting up the application (if any). There are no plans as such with Disney Circle Home. Good parental controls (this was the number one reason), which my Netgear R6400 doesn't have, 2. You're very kind. As such, I have found this article to be innacurate, at least for the RBR40. Just download the Circle Parental Controls App to get started. I have been experiencing issues with my network because of circle. I found the free version of Disney Circle helped, but did not have everything I want, i.e., time limits, bedtime, etc. Fast forward to now, I've recently purchased an Orbi RBR50 with one satellite that is bathing my home in a nice warm mesh! It is available for a wide range of platforms including Kindle, Mac, iOS, Android, and Windows. Unfortunately, it has the same set of rules that Disney Circle Home has, with the sole exception being that that Circle Go is available for both WiFi and LTE networks, whereas the former only supports WiFi. Circle on NETGEAR comes with basic features that are free to use. 1) Is going with the premium subscription (using my Costco Orbi or buying a 2nd Gen Circle Cube) the only way to monitor the cell phones away from home using Circle? I have the exact same line of questioning, having sort of reached the same conclusion that Netgear seems to be trying to sell the soon to be decommissioned 1st Gen Circle. If you want to know my input I can tell you three major things that we want from eero plus… I have seen and reviewed many other parental software before but this one takes the cake considering its pocket-friendly price, the number of features it offers and the number of devices that can be monitored. When I purchase a parental application or device, I expect it to monitor the targeted devices irrespective of their location. Ultimately, it's the easiest to use to monitor the kids' activities home or away and that piece of mind is most important for us. I purchased my Orbi AC3000 for 2 reason: 1. Also, looking forward to any suggestions. I was about to upgrade to premium when I realized that there is a whole new Circle out there (2nd gen). I discovered that the Orbi doesn't have configurable QOS which I need to limit bandwidth when my kid is playing XBOX. My challenge, determining if the Circle on NETGEAR (Orbi) supported 2nd gen and if I could just move there. The customization features were great to set up different settings for my 6-year-old versus my 9-year-old. Plus, Circle with Disney provides access to exclusive Disney content the entire family will love! By the way, the vendor offers 30-days money-back guarantee. • Social media content, and Although the initial configuration was laborious, it is easy to use and helps parents to tailor the internet experience of their kids. This device is a must for families who love devices. Be prepared for a surprise as the vendor offers a free version, which is good enough to protect one device and is inclusive of basic features such as reporting, time limits, and world-class web filtering features. As I have Windows installed on my laptop, I downloaded the Windows client. The devices managed by Circle are limited to 100Mbps since the Circle device doesn't support gig ethernet, but that's fine with me. I'll try plugging the old circle device in and see what happens. It is very helpful! What has worked for me - mostly - is using Microsoft Family. Do more with Circle Premium. I never used circle for monitoring kid's mobile devices when they were away from our home wifi, we just depended on the Verizon smart family app for managing cellular data access. WiFi 6 Access Points and devices are the future of WiFi. It intercepts data as it travels between devices and the router, so … 1: I hope someone will tell me I'm wrong and have missed something. • Monitoring usage, and I also connect my 1st Gen Circle to my Orbi so I don't have to pay for the subscription. Many such programs exist. In summary, Circle will not be compatible with Google Wifi as of the moment. I also experienced some never-ending ads of Disney products and content, especially those for kids, in the dashboard panel. Unlike Qustodio, Disney Circle consists of a tiny white box that pairs with your existing Wi-Fi router. Excellent question and well-stated - took me about 2 seconds to hit the Subsribe link. Because I am not happy with the NetNanny solution, I have two questions... 1) Is going with the premium subscription (using my Costco Orbi or buying a 2nd Gen Circle Cube) the only way to monitor the cell phones away from home using Circle?2) Any recommenders on how to monitor the kids windows laptops when away from home? The Circle Home Plus was very easy to set up and easy to use, once I downloaded the right app. It acts as a "traffic cop" for your network, so all the data going through your router generally will have to go through Circle as well. I am facing a similar situation but couldn't find the best conclusion from this post yet. Circle 1st Gen vs Circle on Netgear vs Circle Home... NetNanny's parental controls are not as good as Circles nor does NetNanny provide history or usage like Circle. Instead of the software solution that is more common, Circle offers a hardware solution that controls internet access directly from the router. 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