Many hunters who lived near the tree farm and who had hunted there for years suddenly found that they were locked out of their favorite hunting areas. Well written, Weherhaeuser states trash dumping, vandalism etc as the reason for permit access. While I’m frustrated about the cost of an access permit, I don’t blame Weyerhaeuser for instituting the new system. For this reason, simply restoring unlimited access is not the answer. and processing of the game animal. The access site is now open for all hunting seasons. Just a heads up, before any of you lease land from Weyerhaeuser, try and find out if and when they will be cutting any timber on it. Due to the significant outrage generated by their decision to start selling public access permits, there are proposals afoot in several Washington Counties, particularly in Cowlitz County, to raise property taxes on timber lands owned by Weyerhaeuser. They also prevent access to the wonderful wild trout fishery and great swimming on the upper Skookumchuck river. Elections have consequences, and as long as King County and Multnomah County residents vote all the reps in that matter, we are S.OL. Thousands of people visited the tree farm annually to participate in a variety of outdoor activities, including hunting deer, elk, black bear, and various types of small game. There doing this across the state. Private Lands Hunting Access. While I never actually witnessed any trash dumping, poaching, or vandalism occurring, there is no doubt in my mind that it was happening on some level. and now feel it has been taken from me. I know there are some cases where one guy got a permit, but his friend or extended family member did not. During the same time period, hunters pursuing elk and black bear, which were not nearly as popular to hunt on the Vail Tree Farm as deer, also slightly decreased. Any solution to the land access problem must address the problems Weyerhaeuser is facing. Clearly this meant good things for the fortunate hunters who got an access permit in 2013. Snt. Doing so will result in a reward from Weyerhaeuser in the form of a free or discounted access permit. Hunters MUST APPLY BY MAY 15 for controlled hunts but have until June 1, 2015 to change Understandably, there is considerable outrage being directed at Weyerhaeuser by sportsmen right now. when the PNW was opened up it was blocked out to prevent just this type of land Barron grabbing of land like back east. At the same time, they still get to maintain their preferential tax status for land not being logged and are still (hopefully) maintain an amicable relationship with citizens in the surrounding communities. However, they should then lose their special tax breaks based upon the fact that they are receiving income off that land by selling recreational permits. I understand that the problem set that the Inland Empire Paper Company faces in Eastern Washington is slightly different than the one Weyerhaeuser is dealing with on the other side of the state. Much of the land accessible to the hunting community in Lewis County is owned by Weyerhauser and it is only available for a permit or lease fee. it goes back to the original plan of America in the beginning “Freedom”. By reducing the area where the banned activities are most likely to occur, this will help make the land easier to police for existing Weyerhaeuser security. Oregon still uses slash burning and they don’t have a problem with hoof rot in thee elk herds. Weherhaeuser also is charging access fees on most of its Oregon properties, therefore according to the program Weherhaeuser is no longer eligible for any of the benefits, to include inhanced law enforcement. I’m sure they were legitimately having a number of problems resulting from public access and this was their way of curbing prohibited activities. There are three main gates to access Vail, and two of them are located in Lewis County. Gate it all, protect it, I will be happy to walk or bike in. Specifically, they pay a reduced tax on land that is not actively being logged, since they are not generating income off that land. I have lived in Grays Harbor my entire life started hunting with my father at the age around eleven and was taught to respect the land and the animals we hunted. It contain up-to-date information to help you plan your next hunting trip including ground cover types, nearby recreational facilities, trails and more. Our ” representatives” , career representatives, are so deeply bought and paid for by the special interest group lobbyists, it will never happen. And even then, finding roads and mapping a route can be tricky. If they want to keep their tax breaks, then they have two choices: provide no access to the public at all or provide access to the public in a reasonable manner. hunting license and tag this make the animal worth about a $1.000 or even more. If you were lucky enough to snag one of the 800 recreational permit keys, you might just see what I am talking about. (this is the united states) and I, as well, feel that our rights have been taken from us. As long as the permit doesn’t cost an excessive amount of money and is not extremely difficult to obtain, most people aren’t going to get bent out of shape about it. Some areas of the land are not accessible by road, and there are some areas marked non-motorized access. This basically makes hunting not an option for me anymore, especially with the increase the state is also doing on hunting tags and licensing. Now I’m not an expert on the tax or legal side of things, but it’s my understanding that most timber companies in Washington, including Weyerhaeuser, receive some special tax breaks on their timber land from the state and county governments. But they do offer access to their lands…..just not during hunting season. The total number of deer killed reported by hunters in that GMU dropped from 755 in 2012 to 689 in 2013, but increased to 795 in 2014. The price for the permits for 2016 was $300 dollars, and became available online for purchase in May. If you are looking for recreation property in Lane County, Oregon, Weyerhaeuser Company has the 1,078.38 acre OR-Gate Ck lease available for silent bid. The fact that our culture, education, and government has strayed so far from this basic understanding is why we as hunters have to deal with this pathetic and shameful predicament. Private lands accounts for just over half of Oregon’s land base and include farms, range lands, wetlands, forests and stream corridors. where is our help from them??????? The timber companies need to pay the state for practicing there spraying practices and sickening and killing off our wildlife. “We are excited that Weyerhaeuser Company has chosen to provide free public hunting access on these parcels,” said Kessina Lee, WDFW […] As soon as they bought some Plum Creek land we were hunting, they came in and leveled it. Environmentalist are always trying to restrict what the timber companies can do with their lands and when they do stupid stuff like this they loose one more voter who used to be on their side. I use to look forward in hunting every year and has been my passion for life. Purchasing the recreational permit opens up 160,000 acres that only 800 hunters have been given access to this season. The application allows users to find data relative to their hunt and the species they are after, quickly and easily. It’s going to cost a whole lot more than the $160,000 generated by selling access permits to prevent people from causing problems on the tree farm. However, I have no connections with Weyerhaeuser other than that. The problem will be that we will never get to vote on it. This money also pays so much per acre to the land owner for acreage that is open with free access. Weyerhaeuser, which now employs some former Plum Creek company officials in leadership roles, owns 880,000 acres in Montana. They may end up making a small profit off the program, but in no way does it offset the absolute thrashing Weyerhaeuser is taking in public opinion right now. The Weyerhaeuser access permits for the Vail tree farm for the 2014 hunting season went on sale June 16, and the sale was a complete disaster. Ensuring that the gates are always locked will help deter people dumping garbage and vandalizing trees and equipment by simply making it more difficult and time consuming to do so. Damage to equipment and roads also costs time and money to repair and that money has to come from somewhere. I see all kinds of vandalism and garbage out there. This will reduce the maintenance requirements for the roads on the tree farms, help keep significant portions of the tree farms from becoming a “zoo“ during hunting season, and still preserve the quality of hunting available for motorized permit holders. This is not a cheap sport in any sense, so paying to use land is not included in everyone’s hunting budget. Prior to 2013, Weyerhauser allowed free access to this land, but due to an increase in vandalism and abuse, something had to be done to protect this treasure. Therefore, if a fellow hunting friend does not purchase his or her own permit, you are unauthorized to bring them along for the ride. Access to quality hunting area is a problem all over the United States and seems to only be getting worse. Everyone utilizing Weyerhaeuser land must have their access permit prominently displayed at all times on their person and on their vehicle (if they have a motorized permit). I have cleaned up lots of trash for them in the past and this is the thanks I get? In an effort to restrict access to the Vail Tree Farm, Weyerhaeuser only sold 650 access permits in 2013. “We’ve seen deer, elk, and black bear on this property,” Lee added. Happy to walk or bike in for $250 Eric? It was fun, but we had over 5,000 acres and made sure that our dogs stayed on the club. At Weyerhaeuser, we are proud to connect people with access to everything nature has to offer. Photo credit: Cassie Miller. “The fees allow for us to offset costs that are incurred as a result of allowing the public access to our property,” claims Anthony Chavez, Weyerhauser representative. I know that gates are usually left open on the Vail Tree Farm when logging is actively occurring in an area. – Hear from some of the most audacious and[...]. The program can come in handy for hunters who are hunting Weyerhauser land. However, I believe that this is the best, realistic, solution possible for all parties involved. I live in Nemah, Wa – an area that was once owned by Weyerhaeuser, but sold to Hancock. That $160,000 was probably spent on administering the access permit program and cleaning up/repairing damage and vandalism done to parts of the Vail Tree Farm by unscrupulous citizens. True to form, in 2015 and 2016, the price of Weyerhaeuser access permits for the Vail tree farm increased yet again to $250 and $300 respectively. “People can hunt there they just need to make sure to look at Weyerhaeuser’s rules that are listed in the news release. Weyerhaeuser-Cathlamet (850) Land Access Information. well it continued which make one believe it was the key holders were the problem. Weyerhaeuser Outdoor Recreational Leases - Arkansas-Oklahoma-Texas is not employed by or affiliated with the Land Conservation Assistance Network, and the Network does not certify or guarantee their services. Permit holders are mailed a key that will unlock the gates going up to the Vail Tree Farm. All access permit holders will have the opportunity to gather reasonable quantities of firewood, berries, etc. “That was a shock,” he said, but he had drawn a cow elk permit on Weyerhaeuser land and had no choice if he wanted to hunt. That’s what it costs in my home town. Number one,these private timber companies do not own our wildlife,the people of our state do. food. Mi-HUNT Interactive Map. But free is not always an option and it is not easy to come by. My opinion about what Weyerhaeuser is doing right now along with other Timber companies across the US is shameful. since the state and land owners got on the log and trade scheme of the late 70’s and 80’s these timber lands owners were able to secure huge blocks of land that used to be public and school lands.these lands used to be open then they gated them to stop the vandalism and garbage dumping. Full disclosure: I purchased a Vail Tree Farm access permit in 2014. Under the new rules, 800 permits would be sold for the Vail Tree Farm. Make sure you follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. We as responsible stake holders should all insure that Weyerhaeuser is not reaping benefits they donot deserve and defitely are no longer earning. and that garbage there talking about usually was a chip bag or soda container that some lazy louse tossed or it blew out the back of the truck. However, they changed their policy during the 2013 season and required the purchase of a $150 access pass to utilize the vast majority of the tree farm during hunting season, which they defined as 1 August to 31 January. This is a real heart break for the future of our children and the not so wealthy. Understandably, there is considerable outrage being directed at Weyerhaeuser by sportsmen right now. Our grouse populations in the Mnt. Since the number of people accessing their land was dramatically curtailed, they very likely experienced fewer problems with garbage dumping, vandalism, etc. There is nothing wrong with requiring that certain types of recreational users purchase an access pass to enter the tree farm. Ask Neuneker how often he likes to hunt and he’ll answer, “All day, every day. Each year, some prospective hunters never really join the sport and many veteran hunters quit because they don’t have access to a good place to hunt. It seems like that hunting becomes more and more of a rich man’s game as each year passes. Charging access is fine with me, but the way there doing it is wrong. With these things in mind, here is my proposal: The simple act of having to register and buy Weyerhaeuser access permits will deter many of the miscreants currently causing problems. As common of a pastime as playing golf, hunting is one of the most anticipated seasons for Lewis County outdoorsmen and women. Do not support these fees as long as the tax incentives and tax breaks are in place. Nobody really knows how this will play out over the long term. Some restrictions still remain on camping and usage of the land, but with access granted from August 1, 2016, through July 23, 2017, Vail key holders will be able to do more than just hunt the land. They also buy unproductive, or less productive, land from people … As long as the public has access to their land, there will be a small number of people who cause problems by dumping trash, target shooting, vandalizing trees and equipment and generally ruining things for the rest of us. Mi-HUNT Interactive Map MiHUNT shows approximate boundaries of lands open to public hunting, including both public hunting land as well as private land open to the public for hunting. Oregonians have a 2% fee added to the cost of their hunting license which is used to pay additional State Troopers, to patrol private lands that allow free of charge access for hunting. Please people, don’t ignore this. In questioning the motive behind the increase, Anthony states, “We added new benefits to the program. Traditionally, Weyerhaeuser allowed free walk in access for most of the year, and drive in access during specific weekends during hunting season on the 159,000 acre Vail Tree Farm in Thurston, Lewis, and Pierce Counties located in western Washington. The web site opened at 6:00pm, but due to a computer error, nobody was able to actually buy a permit until 6:19pm. That’s not chump change, but it is a drop in the bucket to a company which had $7.1 billion in revenue in 2012. The wild game in the woods belongs to all Americans and not special groups. Crawford pointed out that the five people in his hunting party would have had to pay a total of $750 for Weyerhaeuser permits. The thick green timber, dense fog and the old logging roads through Vail are quite a beautiful sight on an early fall morning. In the Pacific Northwest, winter arrives in many forms, whether on a snowcapped mountain top, or a misty overcast. not fare for everyone. Visit the News and Updates page for important announcements related to recreation in our working forests. That’s big business, and that’s only one farm. However, if Weyerhaeuser aggressively takes action against those violating the rules, it will not take too long for word to get out and for people to start taking the new rules seriously. Just for a moment, let’s focus on the Vail Tree Farm and ignore the 650,000+ acres of land encompassed by Weyerhaeuser’s other tree farms in Western Washington. Weyerhaeuser Company (/ ˈ w ɛər h aʊ z ə r /) is an American timberland company which owns nearly 12,400,000 acres (19,400 sq mi; 50,000 km 2) of timberlands in the U.S. and manages an additional 14,000,000 acres (22,000 sq mi; 57,000 km 2) timberlands under long-term licenses in Canada. Key holders are only allowed to bring their spouses, children and grandchildren who fall under the age of 18 as of August 1, 2016. Snt Helens Tree farm for over forty years and never saw elk with hoof rot until the spraying of UREA. Weyerhaeuser is concerned about protecting their most important investment: the trees. Nicely said, Really ticks me off that it’s becoming a money sport now and not what it should be. We used to dog hunt on our club when I was a kid. Also,take away the spraying of there land with herb asides and go back to slash burning. an access fee should not be any more than $25 or $50 dollars. But one of the biggest questions typically is—where to hunt? I have picked up other peoples garbage and brought it home and disposed of it properly I am 54 years old and feel betrayed the timber company is getting tax breaks on land they say is not active but the truth is it is still being harvested in the form of brush and mushroom. In cases like this, the hunters are faced with the choice to either hunt without their partner or not hunt on the Vail Tree Farm at all this year. Aggregates We work independently and with industry partners to explore, evaluate and lease a variety of mineral commodities – including construction materials – on our more than 11 million acres in the United States. You’re exactly right Monte. 4. For comparison, approximately 55% of 6.9 million people in the state of Washington live in the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia area while less than 10% of the population lives in and around Spokane. by the time you figure in the gas we spend. If one existed, Weyerhaeuser probably would have already done it. Of those lands, the block management agreement allows public access to 709,927 acres in this corner of the state and 59,777 acres near Missoula. I for one plan to never buy a stick of their lumber products again and hope everyone else won’t either, no stronger message then hitting them in their own pocket book. By selling 800 Vail Access Permits at $200 each, Weyerhaeuser generated $160,000 in revenue, or about $1 per acre of the Vail Tree Farm. Weyerhaeuser DOES NOT mail anything to our Non-Motorized permit holders. This summer, Weyerhaeuser Company enrolled 6,638 acres in the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife’s (WDFW) Private Lands Access program. Those gates are found at Pigeon Springs Road near Onalaska and Big Hanaford Road in Centralia. Every single day you should always be looking for a free deer hunting lease. The program can come in handy for hunters who are hunting Weyerhauser land. those of us that are not the chosen ones and are unable to obtain a land pass because they are gone before we can even get into the website are being denied our wrights as Americans they need to take a long hard look at what is going on here they don’t own the game that lives on the land with thing going in this direction our up coming outdoors persons are being denied we all are getting America taken away from us. With me, but allowed motorized access for the future of our children and grandchildren under the age 18... 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